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    Re: Lowering the crossover point.

    Does this suggestion make sense to anyone else here?
    Yes, heaps of sense. I'm one of those geeks who mainly uses EQ in "when all else fails" situations. So, i'm buyin what yer sellin.

    If i might make a suggestion to you VOT, break large bodies of text in your posts up into spaced paragraphs, it makes it much easier for us old farts with failing eyes to read, and more importantly makes it much faster to go back and parse certain parts of the text to be sure we fully understand what you mean.

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    Re: Lowering the crossover point.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    If i might make a suggestion to you VOT, break large bodies of text in your posts up into spaced paragraphs, it makes it much easier for us old farts with failing eyes to read, and more importantly makes it much faster to go back and parse certain parts of the text to be sure we fully understand what you mean.
    Thanks, bowtie. I just went back and edited it/broke it into three paragraphs instead of one huge one and yes, it's a lot easier to read that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    Yes, heaps of sense. I'm one of those geeks who mainly uses EQ in "when all else fails" situations. So, i'm buyin what yer sellin.
    I think that even people who always use EQ and never listen flat would benefit from doing crossover and cabinet mods/experimentation (and subsequent listening evaluations) with a flat (or almost flat if they find flat unbearable!) EQ setting and after finding what sounds the best with their speakers, then use an equalizer/season to taste.....
    Last edited by voice of the theater; August 27th, 2012 at 10:57 AM.
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    Re: Lowering the crossover point.

    CD, here's what I'd do if it were me:

    1) Get a measurement rig (either have someone come over who has one, or you can put one together - a "turnkey" option is the Omnimic, but you can put together your own rig for less than half the price of that).

    2) As VOTT suggests, take everything in the signal path, write it all down, and build a test plan that allows for understanding what each component is doing to the measurements. For example,
    * start with raw drivers (free air impedance sweeps),
    * then add in the cabinets (cabinet loaded impedance sweeps),
    * then add in the amp with no EQ or crossover (raw driver FR measurements)
    * then add in the crossover
    and so on. Time consuming, yes. But fun, and only with that methodical approach can you get down to the nitty gritty of how all the pieces are changing the sound.

    3) If you can't get hold of a FR measurement rig, you can still go through the steps in #2 with listening tests and get some value from it, and at a minimum you'd probably want to keep a "listening journal" of sort to be able to keep track of everything as more of the system components get layered in.

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    Re: Lowering the crossover point.

    I visited his video link, and barring that tad bit of echoey-ness (which was due to the room while doing the recording), to be frank, the sound was almost normal, and this confirms that the speakers are alright. Also around 10 months back, he had started a thread about how to reduce the "shouty-ness" of his 604s which is again a normal thing in the case of the 604s.

    So it seems that the speakers are okay, and the problem is somewhere else in the audio chain, most probably with the 5.1 splitter.

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    Re: Lowering the crossover point.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    If i might make a suggestion to you VOT, break large bodies of text in your posts up into spaced paragraphs, it makes it much easier for us old farts with failing eyes to read, and more importantly makes it much faster to go back and parse certain parts of the text to be sure we fully understand what you mean.
    Yup Dave (VOTT),this is good advice.......
    Last edited by Altec Best; August 27th, 2012 at 03:58 PM.

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